In his latest clumsy attempt at “social engineering,” Dannie Dolan has
decided to sponsor a “YAG” (“Young Adults Get-together” -- for “sedes” only, of
course) at the SGG cult center.
Deacon Dan expects people to fly in from all over the country to attend
this weekend “event.” Can you
imagine spending several hundred dollars
jet-setting into Cincy (plus, spending a few hundred more for your lodging, and
other things not covered in the $50 “”registration fee”) to go bowling?
Ah, but wait – there’s more!
Bowling is just the “grand finale” of this fun-filled extravaganza! On day 2 of this event, there’ll be “dinner in the social hall, followed by a bonfire (weather
permitting), indoor/outdoor games, archery, music, and possibly a square dance”
(not to mention, an “ice cream avalanche”).1 Wow, boys and girls! Does it get any better than that?! We wonder, though, who or what will be
the “target” for the “archery.”
Bergoglio? SSPX, FSSP, or
SSPV clergy? Any other “non-sede”
clergy? And what kind of “indoor/outdoor games” will there be? Perhaps a “fencing” demo by the
Lotarski boys)? Fill us in,
Dannie; we’re dying to know!
And, of course, sandwiched in between all this “fun,” will be several
“Masses,” a Benediction (with “confessions offered before”), and a “short talk”
(aka, brain-washing session). So,
as Dannie said, “OK, young sedes – it’s time to come
and meet your peers!” and “Don’t be shy and
check your phone at the door!” (Why
must they “check their phones at the door,” Dannie? Are you afraid that they’ll call 911 when they find out what
SGG is really all about?)
And then there’s Dannie’s
solicitation for his “event”: “Are you feeling isolated?
Are you the only one your age at your Mass center? Do you long to meet and socialize with
other Traditional Catholics who won’t think you’re a relic from the Middle Ages
who has somehow time-traveled to the twenty-first century?”
Never mind that Dannie’s invitation reads like a solicitation found buried in
the back of a sleazy pulp magazine (or on a website for pedophiles). Never
mind that it sounds like the sort of appeal that one would make to an
introverted social misfit (or a deranged sociopath). Never mind that the
entertainment offered is cornier than a grain silo in Nebraska. Never
mind that it was utterly presumptuous of this ego-maniac leprechaun to
expect people to fly in from the far-flung corners of the country to come to
his “do.” Never mind that bowling
is something that these prospective visitors probably haven’t done in decades (if they’ve ever done it at
all). And never mind that people will
think that anyone who comes to Dannie’s “do” is “a relic from the Middle Ages who has somehow
time-traveled to the twenty-first century.” The point is, it’s good, clean fun,
right?
Well, let’s rewrite Dannie’s “invite” – only this
time, a little more “descriptively”:
Hi, boys and
girls! Tired of that “same old
same old”? Wanna have some real fun? Well, come to the cult center! Dannie’s having a “do”! First, the ‘principal’s’ sons will
treat you to some porn, followed by
some animal torture flicks! (Perhaps Puccini or Caravaggio will be
starring in one of them – “tearin’ holy hell” outta some baby bunny!) And you girls: perhaps one of you would
like to be “put in a family way” by one of those same sons – no extra charge!
And you sadists in the
crowd: stop by the SGG “school” booth, and see the principal reducing a
six-year-old to tears, by chewing him out in front of the class (for buying the
‘wrong’ school supplies). Or --
better still -- witness the “principal” beating a boy with a wooden paddle (for missing his homework
assignment). Is that fun, or
what?!!
And for just plain,
good old-fashioned mischief, stop by
and see one of the principal’s boys (again) threatening his fellow students, --
or even threatening a school teacher (in front of a classroom full of pre-teen
kids) – all the while, dropping “F-bombs” in front of that class.
And – oh yeah – stop by
the “mortal-sin-of-the-day” booth, where one of our “creative clergy” will
invent a new mortal sin for you.
(Two of our “favorites” are riding roller coasters,
and wearing “sport” headbands in church.) But remember, boys and girls: watching
porn and animal torture flicks are NOT
mortal sins; they’re just “boys will be boys.”
Well, “enough already”: you get the picture. But one might protest: was our “rewrite” a fairy tale? Malicious poppycock? Sadly, NO it wasn’t. All of
this (with the exception of Caravaggio’s “starring role”) really happened – and this is just a sampling of what goes on at the cult center. The “shepherds” who run SGG (and MHT)
would have us believe that they are all about “good clean fun.” Nothing could be farther from the
truth. The history of SGG has been
one long, sordid saga, of which the foregoing was just a sampling. So, Dannie’s “invite” to this “good
clean fun” is just like his “catholicism” -- all for show. Behind
that “wholesome” façade -- as they have proved over and over again – is a spiritual wasteland that is morally bankrupt.2
The truth is, if those “invitees” decide to relocate and stay at SGG, they’ll find out what “the
younger set” there has already found out (and has become correspondingly disillusioned by, resulting in most of
them having left SGG -- but,
unfortunately, not without “collateral damage”). Many have been left emotionally
scarred by SGG’s “catholicism.”
Their disillusionment has in turn made them cynical, many losing the
Faith altogether. But in several
cases, it’s even worse: some have degenerated morally and psychologically: family split-ups, juvenile drug use,
anorexia, girls having children out of wedlock (or becoming “lesbian” or “transgender”)
– and in one case, even incest. So,
if you’re looking for “wholesome,” look elsewhere. (And “elsewhere” does not include MHT. According to several comments that both Pistrina and we have received,
Brooksville is a hotbed of “unwholesome behavior” – especially amongst the
“elite.”)
Can all of this be “laid at SGG’s door”? Well, perhaps not all – but much of it can. Actually, SGG has a disproportionately
large number of dysfunctional families (as does MHT). Many are estranged from friends and relatives, because they
have been instructed as such by the cult-masters. (“Non-cult” friendships are discouraged at SGG, and forbidden
at MHT.) 3 If anyone at SGG has “turned out well,”
it’s not because of the cult-masters,
but in spite of them. The atmosphere at SGG has never been one of wholesomeness, but of fear,
double-standard behavior, and hypocrisy – where the “morality” of
something is determined not by what
is done, but by whom it is
done. If a cult-master (or one of
their “elite”) does it, it’s okay.
If anyone else does it, it’s not.
So, young people, if you are really
Catholic and believe in real
Catholic morality – that is, if you think that watching porn and animal-torture videos is not “boys will be
boys” but is in fact SINFUL, and if
you think that fornication (and
getting a girl pregnant out-of-wedlock) is also sinful, then we respectfully submit
that SGG may not be your “cup of tea” – and certainly
not a “moral oasis” -- and we
therefore urgently implore you to decline Dannie’s invitation to his
“YAG.” Instead, we urge you to GAG at the very thought of doing so. Dannie is in desperate need of “new
blood” (to contaminate); and he would just love to see you waste hundreds of dollars to come to his “get-together,” in the
hope that you’ll relocate to his cult
center to help prop up both its dwindling population and its dwindling finances.
So, do yourself (both your soul
and your wallet) a big favor: STAY AWAY. You’ll be glad you did.
______________________________
1 Even if Dannie’s “get-together”
was totally innocuous, why bowling? Who bowls anymore – especially in the
summertime? Nobody. (Nowadays,
bowling alleys are closing up faster than Pork BBQ stands in Tel Aviv.) And how presumptuous of Dannie to expect
that these folks would be jumping at the chance to travel hundreds of miles to go bowling, as if SGG were the
entertainment capital of Traddieland – and as if it were
Traddsieland’s “moral epicenter.”
Then there’s the dinner at The
Golden Corral (a local budget buffet
that serves up blue-collar steam-table stuff – and a favorite haunt of the
morbidly obese). Are you going to
join them, Dannie? (After all,
you’re a “copious quantities” kind of guy yourself!) Or, while they are there having their peasant fare, will you
be chowing down at La
Petite France or The Grand Finale (two of your favorite
haunts before “hard times” set in)?
And, is their meal included as part of “the package,” or will they have
to pay for it themselves?
2 We have written often about
SGG’s moral bankruptcy, so we will not catalogue it all again here. Suffice it to say that the “sampling”
to which we just referred was just that: a sampling – the “tip of a much bigger
iceberg.” We’d also like to point
out that, in addition to there being no real Catholic morality taught in its
“school” (except arbitrary, Draconian “rules”), the “school” is an academic sewer. Most parents there realize this, and
hence do not send their kids there.
A recent SGG bulletin (far right column, under
“Congratulations, Graduates” heading) touted four SGG “graduates” – but they
didn’t graduate from SGG’s “school.”
Instead, they graduated from Protestant
academies in the area. It seems
rather “significant” that parents would risk sending their children to a Protestant school rather than to SGG’s “school.” (More on this in our next article.)
3 It’s ironic how (especially every Guardian Angel Sunday) Dannie waxes
poetic about “protecting our innocent children,” when he in fact presided over the 2009 reign of terror at
SGG’s school -- and how he wrote off blatant immorality as “boys will be
boys” (that resulted in half the congregation leaving). Is it any wonder that the number of
“broken families” and the “turnover rate” at both SGG and MHT has been
disproportionately large?
The turnover rate is so high because they have begun showing their true colors at these places. They only fight to retain those with money, and it is quite obvious. The little people help with numbers, but it is their main-Rich ones who get the sacraments and given passes.
ReplyDeleteYes indeed! Actually, they’ve been showing their true colors for decades. The thing that mystifies us is how their culties can’t see through their embarrassingly obvious subterfuge. Thes people are seemingly rational, yet they let themselves be bamboozled by these hucksters. We will keep hammering away at Dannie, Donny, and Pivvy, not so much in the hope that their culties will wake up (although we do hope that too), but to keep others from becoming their new victims.
DeleteI wonder if the camp element of Dolan isn't getting too obvious ? Every time it's Rose Sunday, there's always a picture / video of him prancing around in hot pink glad rags and now this YAG in Cinnci "gig" is not to difficult to decipher as GAY in Cinnci" / Throw these trash out on their rear.
ReplyDeleteOne must be careful (for “legal” reasons and others) not to “read” too much significance into that sort of thing (pink colors, etc.) – especially to insinuate that someone is “gay” (which, unfortunately, now carries the connotation of “homosexual,” not “happy”). The cult-masters, for sure, are trash, regardless of what their “other attributes” are. We must reject them for what they have done. That alone is enough to condemn them.
ReplyDeleteThere is an element of "camp" in this set-up - turgid sentimentality foisted upon people as "real spirituality" - a high degree of "dress-up" witness, cope, candles, cross and thurifer to bless Hot Cross buns - I ask you - this is as bad as any Anglo-Catholic outfit might serve up. There are always pictures of the pink props on Rose Sunday - this year accompanied by a video of the Asperges. Finally YAG backwards is GAY. Where is it mentioned that anyone in the post is a homosexual ? However, since the Church is under scrutiny for many crimes of this kind, would it not be prudent for the company in question to eschew any possibility that people might misconstrue the harping on one particular color, as opposed to all the others and the dreadful and apparent problem with "YAG" ?
DeleteYes, we can empathize with everything you say. As far as that “turgid sentimentality” et al is concerned, Dannie likes to play “dolly dress-up” just about every Sunday. And every Sunday, along with the pomp and circumstance, there’s plenty of “S&S” -- Syrup and Sanctimony. It’s sickening.
DeleteOne would think that the Gerties would be “on” to this sorry act, but they keep lapping it up, like so many thirsty puppies. BTW, we were tempted to entitle our article “YAG me with a spoon”; but we thought that some of our readers in non-English speaking countries might not pick up on the “play on words.” But speaking of “YAG,” we clicked on the “YAG” website. They have a bunch of photos of Bergoglio & Co., with cartoon-like “balloons” as captions to go with the pictures (in an attempt to be “funny,” we guess). It must’ve been Checkie who dreamed ’em up, because they’re pathetically corny – as are all his other failed attempts at “humor.”
All Dannie can manage to do to drum up support for this fiasco is to engage in wall-to-wall “Bergie bashing.” That’s the only thing he can harp about, to draw attention away from SGG’s own sordid track record. Sorry, Dannie and Tony, but Terri Schiavo, for one, is not laughing at any of your captioned one-liners.
As Dannie once told me years and years ago - "A good offense makes for a good defense."
DeleteWhat are the other reasons?
DeleteThe WatcherJune 4, 2017 at 4:51 AM
ReplyDeleteOne must be careful (for “legal” reasons and others)
I hope one day that these various blogs do an expose on the PIV and the CMRI.
ReplyDeleteSo are y’all just against all Sede parishes? Is this blog run by an SSPXer?
DeleteThe Watcher June 4, 2017 at 4:51 AM:
ReplyDelete"One must be careful (for “legal” reasons and others)..."
What other reasons?
It should be obvious what the “other reasons” are: one cannot draw concrete conclusions based on non-substantive or inconclusive evidence (such as vestment colors): that is, at best, irresponsible – and at worst, morally (as well as legally) wrong. We report only facts, not hearsay. I hope this satisfies you’re curiosity.
DeleteThe Watcher,
ReplyDeleteWhy are you so concerned about bowling and buffet? If those are what some want to participate in, that is fine.
Anon. 5:03 AM: we are not “concerned about bowling and buffet” but about souls (and your comment indicates that you have missed the whole point of the article). And our point is that SGG is not about “good clean fun,” but about exploitation by morally corrupt con men; and we are trying to warn people not to waste their time and money by accepting Dannie’s invitation. But your comment seems to indicate that you cannot grasp that. So, we suggest that you go back and read the article again, then try to come up with a another comment – one that is more cogent and to the purpose (if you can).
ReplyDeleteYou wrote:
ReplyDelete1 Even if Dannie’s “get-together” was totally innocuous, why bowling? Who bowls anymore – especially in the summertime? Nobody. (Nowadays, bowling alleys are closing up faster than Pork BBQ stands in Tel Aviv.) And how presumptuous of Dannie to expect that these folks would be jumping at the chance to travel hundreds of miles to go bowling, as if SGG were the entertainment capital of Traddieland – and as if it were Traddsieland’s “moral epicenter.”
Then there’s the dinner at The Golden Corral (a local budget buffet that serves up blue-collar steam-table stuff – and a favorite haunt of the morbidly obese). Are you going to join them, Dannie? (After all, you’re a “copious quantities” kind of guy yourself!) Or, while they are there having their peasant fare, will you be chowing down at La Petite France or The Grand Finale (two of your favorite haunts before “hard times” set in)? And, is their meal included as part of “the package,” or will they have to pay for it themselves?
If your response was to prove that we were “concerned about bowling and buffet,” it still “misses the mark.” Yes, that was something that we mentioned; but we weren’t really all that “concerned” about it. We just wanted to point out that Dannie could have picked out something much more “appropriate” for “entertainment.” Our main concern – let us repeat that for you again -- was about Dannie’s “get-together” being such a misrepresentation of what SGG is all about – andthat SGG is more about exploitation by morally corrupt con men. Read the article again (along with several of our other articles), and then see if you can grasp our point. If that fails, then we suggest that you take a remedial course in reading comprehension.
DeleteHow pathetic that you felt you had to point out that Dannie could have picked out something much more “appropriate” [ in your opinion] for “entertainment.”
DeleteAnon, once again you have ignored the main point of our article, and instead are dwelling on a “side issue” (in this case, a side issue of a side issue). You do that because you know that what we say is the truth (that you can't deny), and you must bring up a side issue in a (failed) effort to deflect attention away from that truth – a favorite tactic of those who have no truth of their own to offer. Perhaps you keep responding because you think that “having the last word” makes you “right.” It doesn’t. It only showcases your ignorance (and your intransigence) for all the world to see. Give it up, Anon.; every time you open your mouth, you embarrass yourself again.
DeleteYou pad out your articles with BS and assumptions, then you do not like it when people call you on it.
ReplyDeleteOnce again, another empty reply. Again, go take a course in reading comprehension.
ReplyDeleteI comprehend your pathetic hyperbole. If you stick to the facts your posts will be much smaller and repetitive, so instead you bloviate.
ReplyDeleteIt's why I stopped reading regularly. It's funny, because I agree with the watcher and all regarding SGG, but seriously they can't just leave it with facts and new information. They have to keep up controversy so people don't get bored. It weakens their arguements in my opinion. It was a real howler when they went on with their pro-FSSP article yet clearly knew little about the org.
ReplyDeleteAnon. 3:39 PM, what we know (or don’t know) about the FSSP (or SSPX) doesn’t change the fact that Dolan, Cekada, and Sanborn are moral lepers. And, no, I’m not going to chase down (and respond to) the umpteen “links” that another “anonymous” posted as “evidence” (on our article about those two organizations). The fact is, there are bad priests everywhere: both in the conciliar Church and in “TradWorld.” But that doesn’t mean that every priest, wherever he is, is no good.
DeleteJust as one cannot condemn the entire traditional movement because of bad priests like Dolan, Cekada, and Sanborn, one cannot issue a blanket condemnation of the SSPX or FSSP for similar reasons. I have known several SSPX/FSSP priests personally (and so have others of my acquaintance), and they are all good, morally upright men (unlike Dolan,et al, who have proven by their own words and actions that they are NOT). One does not have to be an “expert” on the SSPX or FSSP to see this. One only needs to apply a little common sense.
I thought this post was excellent. Not sure why if you agree SGG is a danger you're not applauding the work going on here to expose the SGG deception. Sure bowling and buffet sound like innocent fun, but where do Dolan and Cekada vacation-- esorts in Santa Fe. Maybe they'll give the youth a tour of their climate controlled suites at the rectory. No. Cekada & Dolan are playing poor and using the cornball to set up pigeons who are "isolated and lonely" (but single w/salaries!) and easy prey for the lying, do-nothing, bulletin & video producing con artists who just want to steal their money. One or two plump pigeons for the cats to kill and stuff--maybe supply dinner & resort vacations for the two of them for several years.
ReplyDeleteYes, fancy promoting FSSP!
ReplyDeleteNow they are also asking young people who can't attend the event in person to send them what amounts to a dating site profile, complete with personal photo, to send out to attendees. I guess they want to make as many romantic couples as possible from the event (to make more families to fill their pews), though I wonder how they expect the ones who don't attend to become indotrinated.
ReplyDeleteI am surprised they will have a square dance, since it will involve physical contact between members of opposite genders. They even encourage female attendees to wear sandals for one of the events. These seem like things that the cult would normally find "sinful" (if you're not a Lotarski boy). Maybe they want to "go easy" on the new recruits until they are fully brainwashed.
Yeah, Dannie wants to appear “human” to these new recruits so as not to “turn them off.” Dannie is turning on the charm, trying to appear “trendy” and “hip” (especially with his cartoon quips of “Bergie bashing” one-liners on the “YAG website”). Sandals? Sure, no problem! (for the time being, that is). Only later will come the “dress code” and all the other draconian “R & R” (Rules and Regulations).
DeletePerhaps, in the square dance, the one Lotarski boy could show them HIS “step” – where the girl ends up having a bit of a “wardrobe malfunction”; and where “swing your partner to and fro” has a slightly different “connotation” (that is, the “to and fro” motion leads to pregnancy). (And, of course, the other Lotarski boys can show them their idea of "good clean fun" as well!)
To Anon 3:59 AM
DeleteI think you are over thinking this. Best to take it at face value which is simply that SGG is putting on a nice event to facilitate young traditional Catholic people to meet. While it is true this may lead to more families to “fill the pews” as you say it is equally true that this could lead to existing members meeting others from other parishes and having the opposite effect so your point doesn’t really work. It is revealing how desperate many on this site are to turn every single thing that happens at SGG into some sort of conspiratorial scandal. I suppose if a member of SGG were caught saving a child from being run over by a car you would assume that the clergy must have first pushed the child in front of the car or setup the scenario.
To The Watcher 1:48 PM
ReplyDeleteVulgarity is no substitute for wit.
To Anon. 8:10 PM:
ReplyDeleteNo, not everyone on this site “turn[s] every single thing that happens at SGG into some sort of conspiratorial scandal.” We only report the truth of what has gone on at SGG, which – all too often -- IS scandalous. (Sure, some of Anon. 3:59’s suppositions were “hyperbole” – just like yours in the “child being saved” example.) The evils that have occurred at SGG are many, and they are well documented -- and if you were a regular reader of our blog, you would know that. Therefore, we suggest that you do just that. Read the evidence; and if you can refute it, we welcome you to try. (But let us warn you: evidence from the cult-masters’ own lips – and DNA evidence – cannot be refuted.)
Just because you type it does not make it the truth. Just because you type something on a blog doesn’t make it “documented”. Like any good evil minded person you don’t write in black and white, but mix true and false, take things out of context, slant things, read into things knowingly in a wrong way, etc.
DeleteFor example your “mortal-sin-of-the-day” booth as you call it. One example would be implying that the Clergy at SGG preach that wearing sandals is a mortal sin. This is not true, yet has been represented as true on this or your sister blog. There are many examples like this. I am surprised you are obstinate enough to spread lies even on things that can be so easily checked and verified by simply going to SGG and seeing for oneself. I suppose your hope is that if you blast them enough people will not bother to check things out for themselves and see the reality of things. Go to SGG for mass this Sunday and I’m sure you will see more than one women wearing sandals and I bet they won’t be stoned for it.
Anon. 5:07 PM, we NEVER said that “wearing sandals" was a “mortal sin.” And, to be fair, neither have the cult-masters. However, they have warned women (in their dress-code) that “flip-flops” are forbidden. (If the women are wearing them, then they are violating one of Dannie’s “rules.”) The cult’s “assistant priests,” however, have made claims as ridiculous as that (riding roller coasters and wearing “sport headbands” in church being “mortal sins,” for instance). And your claim that “there are many examples like this” is false. That is, you are a liar.
DeletePerhaps Dannie IS “relaxing” his rules on flip-flops these days -- but the rule is “still on the books.” And, speaking of “relaxing rules,” another one of Dannie's "rules” is “no pant suits.” But Dannie violated that rule some time back when he was in Argentina, when the women were wearing pant-suits!! (see http://pistrinaliturgica.blogspot.com/2015/10/for-gertie-women-only-mostly.html for photographic proof).
So, once again, Anon., you have embarrassed yourself. It is Dannie, not we, who thinks that such “violations” are “sinful” (although he obviously seems to be “tolerating” them of late).
From SGG website:
DeleteDress Code
Ladies and Girls:
Modest dress or skirt
Head covering (Veils available at church)
No tight fitting, low cut, short, slit, sleeveless or revealing clothing
No pants or trousers
Men and Boys:
Dress shirt and tie
Suit coat, jacket or sweater
Dress shoes
Forbidden for All:
Shorts
Tee-shirts
Sweat shirts
Sweat pants
Athletic shoes
Jeans
Clothing with messages, large brand logos, sports logos, etc
Anon. 5:13 PM:
DeleteYour “dress code” post proves nothing, because, for one thing, “modest dress or skirt” is open to the cult-masters’ warped interpretation. But even if it weren’t, why are “head coverings” required for women (but not for men). Head coverings, BTW are an old Jewish custom (that most Jews don’t observe anymore). And as for “pants” for women, what’s wrong with that? Dannie, BTW, tolerated them in Argentina (see Pistrina’s post http://pistrinaliturgica.blogspot.com/2015/10/for-gertie-women-only-mostly.html ) So, why not at SGG?
Anon. 5:13 PM:
Your “dress code” post proves nothing, because, for one thing, “modest dress or skirt” is open to the cult-masters’ warped interpretation. But even if it weren’t, why are “head coverings” required for women (but not for men). Head coverings, BTW are an old Jewish custom (that most Jews don’t observe anymore). And as for “pants” for women, what’s wrong with that? Dannie, BTW, tolerated them in Argentina (see Pistrina’s post http://pistrinaliturgica.blogspot.com/2015/10/for-gertie-women-only-mostly.html ) So, why not at SGG?
Why are head coverings required for women? Really? Wow, I was under the impression this site was run by a traditional Catholic. This is trad Catholic 101 stuff.
DeleteI guess he was taking after Pope Saint Nicholas I in tolerating pants in that parish.
Also I just proved your BS about the rule not being on the books and yet you still after looking right at the posted rules pretend there are things there not written. I guess you really understand the whole say it enough times and it becomes true method of propaganda.
DeleteAnon. 5:08 PM: "head coverings" are not "trad Catholic 101 stuff." They're "cult 101 stuff." Head coverings were NEVER required "in the old days" (before V2). They're e "requirement up by sede cults.
DeleteAnon. 5:12 PM: What are you talking about? You make no sense whatsoever. We said nothing about "a rule not being on the books." Take a course in reading comprehension (and truth-telling).
Watcher 5:41 PM
DeleteI am guessing you must also believe the earth is flat? I am very surprised with your response even though it is you, but I guess being “The Watcher” doesn’t make you “The Understander”.
Yes, head coverings were required pre V2 and are even now not only a sede thing.
Example 1: Google Image “1950’s Catholic Mass” then use your eyes to see all the women with hats, chapel veils, etc.
Example 2: Google Image “sspx mass” then use your eyes to see all the women with hats, chapel veils, etc.
Example 3: 1917 Code of cannon law. 1262.2 ……Women, however, should cover their heads and be dressed modestly, particularly when they approach the Lord’s table.
Example 4: search “Christian headcovering” in Wikipedia. “Head covering for women was unanimously held by the Roman Catholic Church until the 1983 Code of Canon Law came into effect.”
Example 5: Go to any SSPX church (i.e. non sede and they still do this).
Conclusion 1: Pre VII Catholic women did in fact wear head coverings at mass.
Conclusion 2: People should not use you or this site as any kind of source for accurate information.
Regarding what I am talking about at 5:12 PM I will walk you through it step by step:
Delete1. You said on June 24, 12:16 PM…. “Perhaps Dannie IS “relaxing” his rules on flip-flops these days -- but the rule is “still on the books.””
2. I went to the SGG website copied the dress code and pasted in as a response showing it is not “on the books” and thus proving your statement false.
3. You stated @ 5:13 PM that my comment “proves nothing” even though it directly refuted your previous statement.
4. @ 5:12 PM on the 28th I commented about proving you wrong and accused you of using a specific propaganda technique.
5. @5:41 you were confused and assumed the solution was for me to take a reading course
I hope that clears it up for you :)
Anon. 4:30 PM:
DeleteThe 1917 canon 1262.2 states: Men are to assist at sacred functions, whether in church or outside of it, with their heads uncovered, unless a reasonable national custom or special circumstances justify a departure from this rule. Women, however, should cover their heads and be dressed modestly, particularly when they approach the Lord’s table.” [Our italics] Note that the canon states that men uncover their heads both inside and outside church. Actually, the “national custom” (in the U.S., at least) is that men keep their hats ON when OUTSIDE church – which they usually did back before V2.. Note also that the canon stated that women “should” wear hats in church, not “must” wear them – and we recall (when we were children back then) that many DID NOT. Yes, it was the custom to wear them back then, but not a requirement.
Note also that the 1917 canon 1262.1 stated: “Conformable to ancient discipline, it is desirable that the women be separated from the men.”(!!) Yes, it actually said that (as Moslems do now!) Even back in 1917 – and certainly thereafter, NONE of our churches had their women “separated from the men.” (Perhaps Dannie might want to “enforce” this!)
So, Anon., all of your photos (and references to “canon law”) mean NOTHING. Yes, women wore hats back then, because it was the custom -- not he requirement, back then. Now it is not (just as ankle-length dresses and skirts are not) – and it is not “immodest” for a woman to have her head uncovered.
Conclusion: People should not use YOU, Anon., “as any kind of source for accurate information.”
Anon. 4:33 PM:
The “dress code” may not state anything specifically about “flip-flops” – but they were forbidden by Dannie in the past (as were shoes that were too “open-toed” or “heelless.” Dannie mentioned this often from the pulpit. BTW, my post saying that you proved nothing was made at 5:51 AM, not 5:13 PM; it was YOUR post that was made at 5:13 PM.
Actually, there were many things (not specifically mentioned in the dress code) that were forbidden by Dannie: “sleeveless” dresses or blouses (and sleeves that didn’t go down to the elbows, and “tight-fitting” dresses and skirts (unless worn by “prominent” parishioners); and skirts had to be well below the knees, etc. These (as well as “flip-flops” and sandals) were all part of that “interpretation” of “modest dress” that I mentioned. So, again, your “letter-of-the-law” argumentation still “proves nothing” to me – nor to dozens of others who witnessed the same at SGG.
Watcher 8:21 PM
DeleteRegarding Head Covering and Dress Code:
Actually all of my references prove you are incorrect and this will be clear to any readers. The SSPX references prove your accusation of this being a “sede cults” rule was incorrect. Precisely because it was the custom it was by that fact the “dress code”. Just as you mention not all followed it to a tee and were not kicked out many don’t follow SGG’s posted dress code precisely either and are not kicked out or even spoken to about it. One easy example to verify is several men that do not wear a suitcoat and tie.
Also none of these are universal rules in that you are correct local custom does play a big part which is why things will change a bit in different countries and yet all still be valid.
It is not just the letter of the law argument, but my statement also is backed up by normal weekly practice. While you may find an exception I am talking about the standard practice at SGG. My statements can easily be verified by anybody that goes and takes a look. Your “facts” are things of which either did not happen, or if they did happen were not the rule. I am not going to take the time to go point by point, but the bulk of your dress code examples can be refuted in 5 min by anybody that either goes to a Mass at SGG or if not close or not wanting to go you can take 30 seconds on their website (even main page) and see pictures of the parishioners that directly refute what you say. This is photographic evidence directly supporting my point!
With the new blog moderation now in place hopefully will you allow my post.
We do not take the testimony of anyone credulous enough to be going to SGG as “proof.” We reject yours, as you reject ours. Go ahead and rant on about “dress code’ – but we will no longer waste our time (and that of others) by posting any more of your drivel.
DeleteTo Anon. 8:12 PM:
ReplyDeleteIf you don’t like our wit, then why are you still reading our blog? The object of our “wit” (as you call it) is to let prospective visitors to SGG (aka, prospective victims) know what kind of “good clean fun” Dannie has condoned there at SGG. You, of course, know that what the Lotarski boys did is true, and you can’t deny it. (DNA evidence, for one, will prove that the one Lotarski boy was the “sire” in that “pregnancy” to which we referred.) So, since you couldn’t deny the truth, you charged us with “vulgarity.” I think that our other readers would agree that what the Lotarski boys did – not what we said – was vulgar.
I occasionally read your blog because it such a joke and makes me laugh reading the level of ridiculousness being written by clearly a very pretentious and distorted person. I know I shouldn’t laugh though because the level of sinful hate, slander, gossip, & vitriol used to attempt to damage people’s reputation and spread misrepresentations about SGG and its parishioners is not something to laugh about and should be condemned.
DeleteThe fact that some boy got some girl pregnant means exactly what? I’m sure there are many cases of private fornicators putting their nose up at others whose same sin ended in pregnancy. Probably often enough the hypocrites that spread the most gossip may even be committing the same sin but happen to be using contraception. To act horrified that a Catholic committed a sin is ludicrous, but not a new concept. What was it that Jesus said to the group so very eager to stone a women for adultery? “He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone….” I’m sure you justify blasting people by name for something they did almost a decade ago by thinking “well it was a public sin so it is not sinful gossip on my part to keep repeating it”. I would argue this is very incorrect. I am one person that did not have this “public knowledge” and I don’t think it is your place to spew it forth on the internet. Also, if you would be so kind as to please direct me to your list of churches that have non sinning parishioners I would really appreciate it.
But instead of continue to argue that point, let me get to my point. I believe your argument is that the clergy at SGG are for example ok with porn and animal torture because they did not respond to events as you would have liked or something along those lines. I believe you would agree that the clergy at SGG have never actually preached that porn and animal torture are good things or even ok things - or are you saying that I am mistaken and that they have in fact taught this?
To Anon. 5:13 PM:
DeleteFirstly, we are not spreading “misrepresentations about SGG” but FACTS. Everything we report can be backed up by eye witnesses, by written testimony (some from the cult-masters’ own lips), and even by DNA evidence. Your assertions of “misrepresentation” are just that – assertions – and are therefore groundless.
Secondly, we did not “act horrified” at that boy getting a girl pregnant (nor do we deny that it goes on at “other churches”). On the contrary: what he did does not “horrify” (or surprise) us at all. What upset (but didn’t surprise) us -- and the half of the parish who left -- was that Dannie CONDONED his action (as well as the watching of porn and animal torture videos) as “boys will be boys.” (The Lotarski boys even tried to get other students to watch those videos.) And when the parents of those students complained to Dannie about it, he ignored their complaints. (And, yes, there are plenty of eye witnesses to all of this witnesses who would testify in court if need be.) So, I don’t believe that we (or the half of SGG parishioners who left) are “ludicrous” in thinking the way we do.
And, by the way, your comment that the clergy “did not respond to events as you [i.e., we] would have liked” is also false. Dannie did respond: not only by ignoring those parents’ complaints, but by firing one of SGG’s teachers (who also complained) as well. (Also, this same teacher discovered all four of his car’s tires flattened the next day – a “coincidence”?) So, again, we are not “ludicrous” in our thinking.
But what IS ludicrous is this assertion at the end of your comment: “I believe you would agree that the clergy at SGG have never actually preached that porn and animal torture are good things or even ok things - or are you saying that I am mistaken and that they have in fact taught this?” Of course they would have never taught this – nor have we ever said (or implied) that they did. (What priest in his right mind would?!) But they condoned it (in private, of course) – and that’s what makes their actions so heinous and hypocritical.
And that is what makes your words here hypocritical as well. So, Anon., please take your false accusations and your groundless assertions elsewhere.
I want to express my gratitude for your work in this site, and to say I see your talent and appreciate it. I am someone who is a convert (n.o. which left) granddaughter of Lutheran minister who traveled a long route and a circuitous one which included during the last few years True Restoration Radio to which I owe many valuable and happy hours spent listening. I may already have written about this in another comment. Mainly, though not exclusively, TRR assists, through a financial gift, MHT and SGG priests and bishops. None has done anything to me - Bp. Dolan, especially, has been helpful. Now however, having read sggscandal.com slowly and carefully at least once and now appreciating this site - working forward from earliest years and am interrupting myself to write this..... I see that my initial feelings about Bp. Sanborn were accurate, that others shared them, negative except for the contribution and that he is a piece of something larger of course, which I was going to use as a way to purify my soul in the initial plan to move to Brooksville (I am thousands of miles away) visualizing myself there. But in reading I see things very clearly up to the point of current understanding, which is always deepening. Yes, indeed, money isthe paramount consideration before charity in each location and I agree that both clergy at SGG would be far happier in a monestary - I sympathize with the concern about money but also see that it is nearly impossible to stop being concerned about it IF your nature isn't into the service you are currently doing and your spiritual progress is derailed - it is actually a very very sad situation!.... Having taught in public school am very familiar with what goes on and how much responsibility and scrutiny is involved, with teeth, of teachers. My mind is actively changing now... and I guess I have to be merciful on myself as this is a true shifting of gears. Am now using traditio's large data base to search. I do have questions, one particular one but will write again. Prefer to remain anonymous but not that well hidden actually, from what I wrote, to those who 'know' me from afar. You really helped me; to save my soul I could benefit from neither SGG nor MHT services but do see a way forward and have found other alternatives which 'feel' far different inside as I contemplate them.
ReplyDeleteMany people have made the same mistake of following Sanborn. I have heard of families picking up their lives and following him wherever he goes. Currently, he has a very enticing setting (a convent, a seminary, a school), which appears to be Catholic utopia; Unfortunately, it's all appearances. I think what people are missing is iare things truly as they appear? Do these two year olds stay quiet in mass because they are so holy or is it because their children beat them for making the slightest noise or turn of their head? Is the school really what it is made out to be? Or is the education sub par? Why haven't their been any male religious vocations from the school? Are their convent vocations forced or "strongly suggested"? Do the religious tell the girls they have vocations whether thy do or not? As far as the church, have you seen the parish have any form of social FR togethers or groups (such as a women or men's sodality) to help strengthen their faith and provide support to a fellow Catholic? Do they do anything for their community or shut-ins? Do they pray the rosary for any prolife issues? What is your role in the catholic utopia? Yes, we are certainly there for the mass first and utmost, but will you be used for money, a work force for cleaning, and to leave your estate to this Vatholic utopia? Will you become as scrupulous as Sanborn's two inch heels? Does this place hold the Catholic virtue of charity?
DeleteAppearances are not the truth, and it's not catholic utopia.
Excuse me, "their parents beat them?"
DeleteAnon. 9:10 AM, thanks so much for your comment. You know, we tried in the very beginning to persuade Dolan “in a nice way” (as others did with Sanborn); but these men are self-serving – and hell bent (almost literally on gaining materially (by exploiting others); and they’ll lie, cheat, or swindle to get what they want. After our many attempts at “showing respect” failed, we gradually shifted to openly disclaiming -- which is what they deserve. However, I must also mention that, for quite some time, we still urged them to “reform” for their own spiritual good – and we still think so (although, after umpteen attempts at persuading them, we have given up).
DeleteIt’s funny that you mentioned that they ought to go into a monastery – because that’s where Dolan and Cekada started out! It was a Cistercian monastery somewhere in Europe (and where they met each other). They both left that monastery (and we’re not sure why); and both eventually “found” each other again at SGG. Prior to that, Dolan (believe it or not) was allied with Fr. William Jenkins. (Fr. Jenkins had SGG’s school, and Dolan was the church’s pastor.) But they had a bitter split-up, and now Fr. Jenkins refers to Dolan as a “predator.” Interesting, huh?
We still hope that these cult-masters reform (for their own spiritual good), because -- contrary to what some of our antagonists think – we do NOT hate these men (but we do hate what they do). And, furthermore, we do not wish them any harm (spiritual or material), But until they change their ways, we will not “treat them with kid gloves.” Will they “reform”? We hope so – but, until they do, “we’re not holding our breath”!!
Yes, Anon. 11:01 AM, as you commented, we think that Anon. 10:59 AM meant that “their parents beat them,” not “their children beat them”! We’re sure that it was a “typo” of some sort! Thanks for the correction!
Delete10:59, 11:01, and now = same person. I just typed fast, auto spell correct, and didn't proofread. You get the point of everything though.
DeleteTo anom 10:59 am
DeleteMaybe since people are naive enough to think any place is a Catholic utopia is part of the reason they are slow upset when they realize priests are also fallen humans and not all Saints and that they will have personality issues and faults just as we all have. Certainly priest are and should be held to a higher standard, but many trads expect perfection and when a priest falls short they assume the worst.
To Watcher 11:13 post:
I often see you accuse SGG of material motivations. Can you help me understand this since in my own experience with these same priest they have never pushed or asked for money or demanded I attend only their church, etc. Also if a person were to want to make a lot of money in the religion game doing it as a trad would be a dumb place to do it. If you really wanted to do it as a trad you could def make more money not as a sede.
Also how will you judge if they have reformed?
To Anon. 1:21 PM: To say that a person like Sanborn (or Dolan or Cekada) “falls short of perfection” is And, no, we do not “’assume’ the worst.” These predators ARE “the worst.” And how can you say that “they have never pushed or asked for money”? They do it all the time!! On which planet have you been living lately, Anon.?
DeleteAs for how we might “judge if they have reformed,” a “good start” for them would be to admit that they were DEAD WRONG about Schiavo, and then apologize to all the people they have hurt (both materially and spiritually), and then try to make some sort of reparation – and that’s just the “start.” Then they’d have to give up all their worldly possessions, and go back into the Cistercian monastery where they started, to lead a life of prayer and contemplation. That would probably suffice.
Me again the convert (to n.o.; left). To me presently, inside myself, SGG seems to be a cramped setting. Whereas, another setting and can find others... I see does not. Why cramped? Because I put my self in their positions - either cleric - and understand and know that things evolve over the course of time and all things work together for good to those who love the Lord 'but' ... Again: this comes down to my willingness to sacrifice and to sense that it is THIS sacrifice, in that particular setting that is called for from me by God. I simply do not get enough from the setting and the association with either man, other than the pleasure I experienced listening to them in podcasts from TRR. But SGG and unglamorous Ohio were never my first choice Florida and Brooksville was first choice (said with a sense of humor but it was true for me before I realized more clearly what is at stake...). Ohio has options but will examine the traditio.com database again when rested for sure. See several places there more to my 'taste' - meaning Ohio. Just choosing a place outside the south would be a sacrifice as 1/2 my family is deep south and wanted to go back there....but in a new way, I see I must really look for a place that resonates with me -- Someone asked above what my role would be. I basically want to obey and need a spiritual director as do others. Remained single; am a serious person; everything that's come to me has come through a process of evolution, sacrifice including of a huge inheritance because I was always trying to offload, and didn't cope well with or indeed even really understand, the material advantages I had growing up... and increasing seriousness. It's good I didn't get into being materially motivated naturally or even unnaturally. But somehow I made it to home plate and am financially reasonably secure for a single person, by my own lights and simplicity of wants and needs.
DeleteBut I have to feel something I do not feel with Brooksville and never did - but now, solidly against the idea for my own life - it woud take a major shift to change and see it in a new light that I could Live With - not just a new light from a distance, but actually being there. I've written to Fr. Deposito - there is Adoration, but so far, no one signs up even though the congregation of about 165 people tends to live within travel distance - I'd want to do Adoration and I would be biking from a distance of 12 miles - where I'd intended to live or finding in course of time another way to get to the seminary aside from owning a car Let's not get off on that - it is very doable knowing myself well - but now - not so much. - I sense the situation well enough now and no longer believe that the seminary has the only take on things that is possible from an intellectual and traditional perspective - because I do sense it is about money and setting things up for posterity and essentially flagship status in perpetuity, so to speak. Maybe what God has in mind for MHT however.... I do sense that the person in charge is using several different ways to set things up financially including making what is there exclusive - and skipping people at the altar rail - am aware that others do this at other venues, too. This is entirely within his personality to do as I perceive him. I was affected negatively by reading somewhere his remark when firing someone, 'it is my seminary and I can do what I want.' Could say more; my response was the same from the very beginning to this person. As for the two men I initially liked at SGG who are sharing responsibility for it.... I don't feel it is my calling to sacrifice my impressions in order to submit properly to the situation there.
Anon 4:06 PM
DeleteWhat?
Watcher 2:32 PM
Who cares if they were correct or not on Schiavo? Totally irrelevant.
Anon. 7:42 PM, I’d have to agree on your first response, and say the same (“What?”). I cannot figure out what Anon. 4:06 PM is trying to say either. But, regarding your second comment (“Who cares if they were correct or not on Schiavo? Totally irrelevant.”), I’d have to say that, if you can’t see the “relevance” about Schiavo, then I’d also have to respond to you with the same word: “What?”
DeleteI don’t know much about the Schiavo case and in my minimal understanding was the argument not essentially the following:
DeleteFather Cekada’s opinion was that the Schiavo case would fall under extraordinary means and thus be permitted while people upset by this hold the opinion that it did not fall under extraordinary means and thus should not have been permitted and was murder.
If we had a hierarchy with the authority to rule on this and Father Cekada went against them then I would understand being upset about it, but at this point is it not just two opposing opinions on a subject that nobody has the authority to rule on?
Anon. 5:19 PM, you obviously have not done a thorough job of researching , or you wouldn't be saying what you are saying. Start reading -- and start drawing the right conclusions.
DeleteMe again. There's an important link further on in this message so be patient or just skip this and look for it. This morning during prayer reminded again of what my responsibility it is to carry forward: at least I get it to this point: all of this history is logical and hangs together on a hidden from view level and all persons and venues are steeped in a hidden commonality - so any anomalies are ultimately placed at the door of those who somehow have deviated by their actions. If no acknowledgement of fault is made publically or retraction it is because that soul is not at the level of surrender in that particular way ...and with a larger view we have to conduct our lives as if we were more flawed than we see others to be - after all it is my problem if the personality of this person or that bothers me - but it is their actions that gives me pause. It is important to note that every single thing we see, is also seen by 'the perpetrators' and silence may be because it is such a deep self knowledge or cross that it is kept private. They are not coasting in West Chester, but suffering to the degree they understand the truth - referring to the clergy. This means too that they are more surrendered and learning more about themselves and life than would be the case otherwise. God has people where they are not because they are perfect in what they are doing but some are certainly more naturally suited to whatever - including teaching. We may not see it. Examples of sterling people do seem to exist, inside and outside clergy. Again, it is actions, as this site points out and delineates so well, and that I value so gaining better control over my decision about where to go
ReplyDeleteIn the case of Bp. Sanborn, no huge action has tripped an alarm - have listened to large numbers of podcasts from him via TRR and what he has intellectually put together could be summed up in a recent announcement from their site. See what you think; comments welcome; to me it hung together and until very recently, before had read sggscandal, was ok with the situation as a place to move - more so, was first choice. http://mostholytrinityseminary.org/Roman_Cath_Inst_Supplement.pdf
He could turn out to be 'correct' in the sense that his situation survives the test of time. He is interested in financial stability for the same reasons we all are. That said, it still may not be for me the right place. Jury's out and have time to research and decide. It is our or my need anyway, to detach myself from surrounding people on an interior level, very deeply. The Imitation of Christ is a book serious enough to suit my real feelings about life... and the responsibility I have in saving my soul does not rest on what is going on vis a vis individual personalities among clergy. It cannot, if I am to succeed at the level I am aiming to succeed. I value this site because it is giving me background.
While I respect your interest in serving for the truth, Sanborn's actions should set off huge red flags. That place is a cold as ice. He uses fear and intimidation to get parishioners to believe in his version of Catholicism. If you visit, you will see a huge lack of charity. Maybe if you have an associated last name, you may be ok. You will still miss what it truly means to be Catholic, but you will have (at least in appearances) the Mass. What a shame that he has turned into such a extreme lunatic, who uses big words and parts of Catholic teaching in order to trick people that it is he alone who holds the faith.
DeleteHe does not claim that he alone holds the faith. Please backup your statement.
DeleteI for one appreciate the difficulty of being the writer of this site because as a writer I tend to back question myself which causes mental torment. I want to tell the writer of this site that I for one see the chronicling of events and perspective as meticulous - you are in touch with something through grace because your integrity seems to shine through and holds the changes together. All writers only write what they understand at the time they are writing. As I begin to listen to audio of The Mystical City of God and to read it I see a very high detailing of history - needless to say. Here is the link: Mr. Duff is one of the people who has suffered a lot, I have learned, in his life. It is suffering that increases the gold. http://www.neemcog.com/ Another example of gold via suffering... - even if there is something I don't know yet, and the venue isn't ok for some reason - at present the music heard upon arrival and the message, affect my soul. http://praguechapel.net
ReplyDeleteWelcome to my blog within a blog!
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BREAKING NEWS!
Pistrina and Lay Pulpit cult masters terrified of anonymous blogger. More news at 10:00 am
BISHOP SANBORN'S ORGANIZATION IS NOW IN EUROPE, AUSTRALIA AND THE GOOD OL' U.S.A.! DEO GRATIAS!
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Yes, you DID delete my previous post 4 times.
State of play:
The Watcher and The Reader HAVE NOT SHOWN US on this site where they have done the Catholic, charitable, thing, and called for prayers and sacrifices for the clergy whom they grievously libel on a daily basis.
You say you've called for prayers (off this blog) before? Show me the proof. And, WHY, pray tell, are you not displaying a prayer for these clergy at the end of every one of your rants, and begging people for prayers and sacrifices for them? Did you imagine, in your non-Catholic skulls, that prayer is meant to be unsustained?
All of your attempts to turn this aound on us are in vain. If you're not being led by a bad spirit, direct your readers to just 1 instance on this blog where you've asked them to pray for the clergy whom you persecute.
No, I'll stay here. Thanks. :) I DID warn you that you didn't know with whom you deal. ;)
Here are the facts. Here is what the vast majority of those whom count (i.e. the sedes) think.
1) It's been years since you started your devilish campaign (based on purely personal axes that you need to grind), yet SGG and Bp. Sanborn continue to thrive. This will break your granite hearts, but for your information Bp. Sanborn is now operating in Australia, of all places! Fancy that?
So, all of your labors have been to no effect.
2) None of the sedes pay the slightest heed to your BS.
3) You have zero respect, so you receive none in return.
4) Your desperation is apparent. Your pettiness is monolithic. For example, precisely what is wrong with young people bowling, eating pizza or going to a buffet? Sounds like a great idea to me! These type of functions could lead to some stable, happy, Catholic marriages. :)
I like Anon 7 AM blog in a blog idea!
DeleteAnon. 7:00 AM: you need to see a psychiatrist. We never deleted your post -- but we might delete it later (after we've kept it up a while to show people how childish you are).
DeleteAnd Anon. 5:07 PM, you have very poor taste in "ideas."
Why not just leave his post up? Why delete comments? Do you want to appear that most who come here agree with you?
ReplyDeleteThe reason that we’ll delete it (at a time of our choosing) is that this particular comment is from the lunatic who keeps accusing us (and Pistrina) of “deleting” him multiple times. He’s obviously deranged. and is only posting for harassment reasons. We don’t mind getting legitimate comments, i.e., comments from people interested in seeking the truth -- but not from loonies who willfully misconstrue everything we say (and whose only reason for posting is harassment).
DeleteThe barrage of “hostile” comments we got the last few days (about two dozen) was obviously an “orchestrated undertaking” designed to ”overwhelm” us – to “overload the system,” so to speak (which it did). If this happens again, we’ll have to “manage” it, because we have better things to do with our time than to spend all day responding to some lunatic. This wastes not only our time but the time of our other readers. By “managing it,” we mean that we will indeed “spam” those we deem to be “pests.” It’ll be a judgment call” – but one that will be easy to discern: another “overload” situation.”
That being said, we wish to thank this “looney-tune” (or “looney-tunes,” whatever the case may be), because “he,” “she,” or “they” – by their continuous rants – have given us plenty of “material” for future articles. Thanks, guys!!
Watcher, are you a sedevacantist?
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