Saturday, January 28, 2017

There’s Nothing “Traditional” about Tradistan

Just about every week, Dannie Dolan has something to say about how SGG keeps “the real faith,” and (implies) that it is the only one to speak out against Bergoglio & Co. (as if no one else does).  If one were to listen to him and Tony Baloney, SGG is the only “ark of salvation” left on earth.  The same, of course, goes for MHT and the CMRI folks.  They all give their followers the impression that their particular cult is “the chosen one” (although, of late, there has been some unstated “cooperation” amongst them for “political” reasons).

One common thread running through them all is that they keep the “traditional” Faith.  Actually, no they don’t.  Yes, they preach it – but they don’t practice it:  Dannie preaches about the “innocence and purity of our children,” yet writes off the watching of porn as “boys will be boys,” and the brutalizing of school kids by a sadistic school principal as “discipline.”  (Pardon me, folks, but “back in the old days,” all these things were not “traditional,” but mortally sinful.)  And both he and Tony talk about the sanctity of life, yet they justified the slow, methodical dehydrating and starving to death of Terri Schiavo – claiming that her husband had “the right before God” to end her life. (And Sanborn was no different, supporting Cekada’s monstrous position on Schiavo to the hilt.  Of course, he later tried to erase any evidence of his support, by having an incriminating letter to that effect expunged – but we found it and published it.)  (Click here to see the letter.)

And was the CMRI any different?  No, not really.  All during Schiavo, they took the cowardly way out by keeping silent.  But that is the CMRI modus operandi: they like to keep a low profile, and let blowhards like Tony Baloney do the bellowing.  But functionally, they’re no different: when one of their “prominent” parishioners’ (that is, one of their big donors) requested permission for their daughter to have a heart transplant, the Pivster granted it, even though it meant harvesting a heart from a live “donor” – a clear violation not just of Catholic teaching but of natural moral law.  The reason, of course – as it always is with the cult-masters -- was MONEY.  The cult-masters never pass up a “business opportunity.”

The cult-masters – all of them – also preach “forgiveness,” and of being “fair and magnanimous,” yet they regularly use the sacraments as weapons – refusing them to people who violate one of their cult “rules” (such as, going to an “unapproved” chapel while on vacation).  They have even bullied people in the confessional, often refusing them absolution for baseless reasons.  And, of course, they habitually refuse the last rites (and Requiem Masses) to anyone whom they suspect of being “non-traditional” (unless, of course, they have money).  (See article.)  Both SGG and MHT are notorious for doing this.

And, again, is CMRI any different?  Not really.  Their spirit of “forgiveness” and “charity” is on a par with that of SGG and MHT.  A man currently serving a prison sentence, for instance, was refused both confession and communion by a CMRI priest because his crime was considered too “heinous”  (The CMRI priest, of course, also refused to visit him in prison.)1  This priest’s attitude was exactly the same as that of the Pharisees who were ready to stone Mary Magdalene to death.  Where is this “priest’s” Christian charity and forgiveness?  Where did this maggot learn his moral theology?

CMRI’s “moral theology” is, like the other courses taught at its “seminary,” virtually non-existent.  Its “priests,” like those of Big Don’s pest-house puppy mill, have virtually NO TRAINING in real theology, “moral” or otherwise.  The intellectual base of Tradistan’s seminaries, in fact, is on a par with that of a second-rate high school.2   The only things in which they really excel are “guilt-tripping” – one of the main staples of the cult curriculum -- and “cosmetics,” i.e., “looking good for the studio audience.” That – and little else – is what they’re all about:  a bunch of imposters dressed in Roman collars, who don’t have a clue as to what real Catholicism is all about.

They have inculcated their followers with a fanciful, revisionist view of what constitutes “traditional” Catholicism: elaborate, over-the-top ceremonies, along with insane “rules” that have turned them into mini police states.  Their “dress codes” are (as we’ve already noted in the past) particularly draconian.  In the name of “modesty,” the women especially are targeted: prohibitions against “short” sleeves and “short” hemlines on dresses and skirts,2 head-coverings REQUIRED, and – at MHT – even restrictions on the “heel” height of women’s shoes (and, of course, no “open-toed” shoes or “flip-flops”).  There are also restrictions on wearing “too much makeup” (or, in many cases, no makeup at all is allowed), and prohibitions against “body piercings” (girls, e.g., are not allowed to have pierced ears).  And, of course, there are other insane “rules,” such as SGG’s prohibition against anyone re-entering the church -- if they have exited during a sermon for ANY reason -- until after the sermon is over.4

NONE OF THIS is Catholicism.  Such insanity was never enforced (or practiced) “back in the old days.”  The cult-masters have rewritten history, making their flock think that this was “the way it was” back then.  No, it wasn’t.  Short sleeves on dresses, for instance, were common, as were open-toed shoes and other things now verboten by the cult-masters.  We might also add that ankle-length skirts and dresses (that Big Don wants his women to wear at MHT) were also unheard of back then.  And as far as hats and other head coverings are concerned, women often wore them because it was the fashion back then, not because it was required. Similarly, men usually wore “coat and tie”; but, again, it wasn’t required (especially in summer).  And, of course, ridiculous rules about not being allowed to re-enter the church until after the sermon was over simply DID NOT EXIST. 

Another important thing to remember is that back then “in the old days,” pastors and priests lived frugally, and were subject to Church authority.  They weren’t  self-appointed, unbridled prima donnas, answerable to no one, living extravagantly at the expense of their parishioners. And, of course, back then, sacraments were not used as weapons -- refused to people for facetious, fabricated reasons.  Back then too, dogma was promulgated and implemented by Church hierarchy, not fabricated by self-appointed quasi “theologians,” each making up his own “articles of faith,” and then using them as shibboleths to determine one’s “Catholicism” (in order to retain or “excommunicate” followers at will).  And back then, the Church did not use such “police state” tactics as forbidding people to have TV sets in their homes, or telling them what friends they could or couldn’t have.  In short, there was NONE of the nonsense that now goes on at the cult centers.

Back then too, Catholic schools were superior academic institutions – not the pathetic pits of mediocrity that typify today’s trad schools, some of which (like SGG and MHT) are not even accredited, and where education takes a back seat to intimidation.5 And “spiritually,” the trad schools are even worse: at SGG, watching porn on the school computer is a case of “boys will be boys,” but riding a roller coaster is a mortal sin.  Where else but in Tradistan could such maniacal rules find credence – rules which (of course) apply only to the rank-and-file (as many eyewitnesses have testified), while the  “privileged” families (that is, those of the big donors, and, of course, the “clergy”) are “exempt.”  Contrast that with the real Catholicism of the old days, when NO ONE was “above the law”; and everybody adhered to the same set of rules.

In short, the “traditional” cult centers are NOT traditional at all, but cruel caricatures of the real thing: all “holy speak,” and no substance.  They are nothing more than “profit centers” for parasitic, know-nothing con men who grow rich and fat at their followers expense -- where the latter are overworked, financially exploited, and guilt-tripped into submission, and where real Catholic morality has been replaced by draconian “rules” that have no moral basis.  No, they are not traditional at all.  In fact, they are something totally alien to Catholic culture and practice.  They may have letter-perfect rite and rubrics, they may beautifully decorated altars and elaborate ceremonies, and they use all the traditional “buzz words” and phrases, but….


1 The CMRI priest is attached to St. Therese Church in Lebanon, Ohio, whose parishioners, like he, also shun the man as a pariah.  We wonder what goes through their minds (and especially that priest’s mind) when he reads the gospel about our Lord’s parable concerning the Pharisee and the publican, or the one about our Lord forgiving Mary Magdalene – or the one about the Good Shepherd reclaiming one of His lost sheep?  What about this “lost sheep”?  Where is their “Christian attitude” when it comes to him?  How is what they’re doing contributing towards reclaiming him?   How is it working towards saving his soul?

2 The cult “seminaries,” besides having virtually no training in theology, philosophy, and the other classics that real seminaries used to teach, are also woefully deficient in Latin.  None of their completers is proficient in the tongue, and some can’t even read or pronounce it properly.  What many of the MHT seminarians do (like the kids in its “school”) is manual labor and assorted “grunt work” for Sanborn & Co. – and this qualifies as “class time.”

3 The “laundry list” of dress code prohibitions (much of which we’ve already reported in the past) varies from cult to cult; but in general, dress sleeves must be almost down to the elbow to be considered “modest” (and in some cases, must be down to the wrist).  And, of course, “sleeveless” dresses are strictly forbidden.  Dress hemlines must be well below the knee ((four inches or more); and in some cases, the women are expected to wear dresses that are ankle-length.

4 Even women with crying babies who must leave (because Dannie won’t tolerate the “noise”) must remain in the vestibule until after the sermon is over – no exceptions.  (And, of course, the cult centers provide no “crying rooms” for them.)  And one of the problems with these vestibules is that they are not heated, nor are they air-conditioned; so, mothers with newborn babies, for instance, must shiver in winter and roast in summer in SGG’s vestibule, with nowhere to go but a toilet stall inside the bathroom if they waont to “nurse” in privacy.  The vestibule also typically has no chairs on which these mothers can sit, but instead a hard bench (with no back) for them to use.

5 The trad schools typically have “faculty” with no real academic credentials; and their students don’t take any of the standardized scholastic aptitude tests used for measuring academic performance against other schools – and that’s because the trad schools “don’t measure up” academically.  At SGG, a good part of their day is spent in “choir practice”; and when the children sing at funeral Masses, this also qualifies as “class time.”  And at MHT, the school children are even required to clean the nuns’ “convent” and to do yard work, both of which qualify as “school.”  That is why parents with any brains choose to home-school their children (or send them somewhere else), because they know that, academically speaking, these places are ZEROES.

And, as if that were not bad enough, the cult-center schools are run like concentration camps.  The abuses at SGG are well-documented; and, although things have (of necessity) “quieted down” after 2009, barely anyone wants to send their children there.  Attendance continues to dwindle, with barely two dozen kids enrolled.  And at MHT’s school, things are even worse.  The kids there are encouraged to spy on their families, so that – if anything there runs counter to what the nuns dictate -- the errant family is “disciplined.”  For instance, television sets are FORBIDDEN in homes (unless one belongs to one of the “big three” families), and no one is allowed to socialize with other than cult families.  At MHT, “home life” compares favorably with that of Stalinist Russia.


  1. Many people go to these places thinking that Sanborn is the ultimate authority of Catholicism. They do not realize that this is not the case. It is a shame that these places are fueled with this is the best or only place to get to heaven.

    In addition, has anyone asked why these schools aren't growing in attendance? A handful or two students in a school that has been around for over twenty years? There is something wrong with that. How old is the MHT school? Possibly 10-15 years? They have how many students? Less than 30, and only chosen group of 4 families. Notice there are not any announcements advertising to the parishioners that there is even a school at MHT. Mht didn't even announce confirmation in time for others to study.

    How can a seminary focus on studies if their seminarians are always working on the falling apart building? Is that part of their tuition payments? The seminarians tend to lose their personality when completing their training. This may be due to Don turning them into "little Don's" instead of true representatives of Christ.

  2. Let’s face it: Sanborn, Dolan, et al are authorities on NOTHING – except “B&B” (bullying and bulls—t); and the sooner their followers realize this, the better for them (both materially and spiritually). Just the self-incriminating evidence coming from THEIR LIPS ALONE is enough to condemn them. And even if anyone had never written a SINGLE WORD about them, it’s hard to imagine how people – seeing how these parasites luxuriate at the expense of their followers -- could fall for their line of crap.

  3. Do you lump SSPV in with them as well?

  4. Can I ask what you think makes the SSPV different from MHT/SGG/CMRI?

    1. We think the SSPV is at times a bit petty, as they are in questioning the validity of the "Thuc" lineage; but other than that, we have no quarrel with them. On the contrary: Fr. Jenkins was one of the trad priests who was courageous enough to stand up for Terri Schiavo's life. And his church, Immaculate Conception, has a very large and successful congregation (and school). IC's school is in fact very good, with a well-trained and competent staff.

    2. Thanks for explaining. I wonder if Fr. Jenkins' school success is because he does not have the SSPV nuns teaching there. I am pretty familiar with a school run by the SSPV nuns elsewhere and I would not say the quality of education is good there.

    3. Not sure. We don't have much in the way of specifics about IC's school (except that it is far superior to SGG's school). Perhaps one of our readers knows, and could inform you.

    4. "We don't have much in the way of specifics about IC's school (except that it is far superior to SGG's school)."

      That statement doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

    5. Yeah, well here's the SGG School web site

      Here's the IC website:

      Here are the chuckleheads D&C: "When we had our split with Fr. Jenkins in 1989, he was the principal of our school, he had all the schooling families [find out how IC came about]. These were people who felt they really needed a school and didn’t see any other way. So even if they were somewhat sympathetic to my position, they had to go with Fr. Jenkins because he had the school. So we continued on with families that weren’t really that attached to the school. They were either happy with public schooling or we have a big contingent of young parents who really believe in homeschooling and want that level of intimacy, comfort, and control of their own children and they don’t want to give that up to anyone else. They love them and want them there with them at all times. Highly protective at times and sometimes critical about administrations or how a school is run.

      "We used to say that there’s nothing like a school to divide a parish. And for a while I was grateful that we didn’t have a school because of that.

      "You have to say, that if we operate a school, it’s here for the convenience of the parents, to help them educate their children. There are also all sorts of things that are good for the life of the parish, and naturally beneficial. And we enjoy working with the kids. And such opportunities! I mean, where else would you have boys, except here at St. Gertrude’s, who for their Lenten observance, would sing Vespers after Mass? [PL & LP are always saying no education at SGG just children being used to clean & sing (and pay for it rather than be paid!) & be shown porn videos & bullied by the principal's family (who learned it from their dad & fr Cekada & maybe Dolan).

    6. You might also be interested in this article on the founding of SGG school:
      "I went to Fr. Dolan that week and asked permission to begin organizing a school. Although reluctant, he gave tentative permission and told me to keep him informed.... I’ll never forget that there were only two people who discouraged me from starting the school – Frs. Dolan and Cekada! Fr. Dolan said they tend to “split parishes”. Notice, the school splits the parish, not those who run them. Did schools split Catholic parishes for the past 200 years or so? But especially disturbing to me was what Fr. Cekada told me. I’ll never forget it. “But Tim, you’ll have to deal with parents!” Kind of like – yuck! – who wants to do that? A big concern, of course, was money. Other than continuing to pay for Sr. Gerard’s medical insurance and other expenses, I was told not to expect any money from parish funds. Indeed, this was the case – the only money the school ever received from the parish was a once-a-year Sunday second collection. was decided to start with grades 1-6 and let the school grow slowly and naturally.

      The school opened in the basement of St. Gertrude’s in Sept. 1992 with 13 students and two teachers. I hired Bev Peter (now Simpson), a certified teacher, to teach grades 4-6, while Sr. Gerard, an excellent, truly “old school” nun (who once taught 108 first graders in one classroom!) taught grades 1-3."

      Article concludes: "Bp. Dolan fell silent for a moment. He then said, rather tersely (to the man who founded the school's wife): "You’ll have to trust me on this one. We’ve broken him down and we’ll build him back up again.” (By “we” he certainly did not mean he and Eileen…). When Eileen told me this, I realized I could no longer work for him. I finished out the year, and took a job teaching for the same district (and Principal) I had before I left in 1995. St. Joseph always takes care of those who trust in him. I will add one detail. I found it rather humorous that in late May of 1999, before I left the school altogether, he told me he was trying to piece together some early history of the school. He asked me what the status of the school was after the split in ’89. I told him that Sr. Gerard had tutored a few homeschooled children in the basement on occasion."

  5. "As a result, the whole family would have to become homeless, and sell pencils on the street, in order to keep a loved one on a feeding tube or on a respirator until he or she is 105, or perhaps more aged. Does this make any sense at all?"

    I clicked on that Sanborn Schiavo and found the same type of (selfish) logic he used to justify doing evil re: SGG School scandal (i.e. doing nothing while a priest he bragged about training was DEPORTED for telling the truth and children were (and are) subjected to evil corrupters of their souls!) so he and his buddies wouldn't lose EVERYTHING (they'd worked for) and become WALMART greeters. He invents some totally improbable scenario: the whole family will become homeless and forced to sell pencils on the street! Like why couldn't they keep their loved one in the back bedroom & give them a feeding tube? Also why would they lose their job(s)? And where would they get pencils to sell? And yet he feels competent to train future priests (it boggles the mind!).

    Schiavo wasn't on a ventilator any more than Karen Ann Quinlan (who though being fed weighed 65 pounds at her death at age 31!) and Schiavo's own family was begging to bear the cost of the care.

    Meanwhile those in comas are waking up:

    Wonder where Sanborn's going to wake up: who wants $9000 for a pair of kneelers and brags about having Gammarelli for his tailor!!! Imagine what Sts. like St. Francis & St Paul ("If you are a thief, quit stealing. Instead, use your hands for good hard work, and then give generously to others in need." Eph 4:28) would say about such greed!

    Jesus was a carpenter who saved money for the poor (John 13:29)!

    1. Yes< Sanborn (as well as Dolan and Cekada) is scum -- and we thank you for the links.

  6. Not sure which links you were talking about, but here are some concerning brain damage/comas:

    "The real-life story of Annie Shapiro - who fell into a coma at age 50 in 1963 - is more remarkable than the movie based on her miraculous re-awakening. When she suddenly awoke nearly 30 years later in 1992, she was a 79-year-old granny, devastated by her appearance and the way the world had changed.

    Top 10 Comas,28804,1864940_1864939_1864908,00.html

    One can be gifted by God w/a great mind, but w/out charity as St. Paul so eloquently (even though he strives not to be eloquent) puts it one is a hollow/empty gong/loud noise (1 Cor 13:1). Interesting that John "the disciple whom Jesus loved" who in epistles & Gospel goes on and on about w/out love for each other have nothing of Jesus & calls everyone little children, in Gospels was rebuked by Jesus for ambition (Luke 9:46-47) & destruction of opponents (Luke 9:54-55) [your colleagues at PL seem to suffer from this desire as well--maybe why taken in by C&S in the 1st place]. Also note both 'scare tactic' Sanborn letters written to defend Cekada.

    Fr. Cekada buries Salza/Siscoe’s latest on Sedevacantism

  7. To address anon.’s (Feb. 5,12:59 PM) comment that our statement, “We don’t have much in the way of specifics about IC’s school (except that it’s far superior to SGG’s school),” doesn’t “make a whole lot of sense,” what we meant is that we don’t have any stats on the school (except for what is on their website, etc.). We DO know, however -- from the comments of people whose kids are at that school – that they are very well satisfied with its curriculum. And we also have first-hand evidence that many of their students have distinguished themselves academically – something that has never happened at SGG’s cesspool. We also know that several people who are NOT "trans" who send their kids there. Actually, IC’s reputation as a good school is known throughout much of trad world -- and we suggest that you do some digging on your own to find out more “specifics.”

  8. RAD TRAD CATHOLICS are the most evil people in earth....because they have so harsh attitude that repels the sincere people who want to follow Christ...

    All these people in CMRI and other "churches" are trapped in a cult...

    The real church isnt located at Sanborns or Dolans places....

    But they put guilt in people's heads and peoples just stop to think normally...and bc of that they cannot get out of the cult

    1. Dolan and Sanborn are strangers to me.
      I do not know these people nor have I ever met them.
      The good old days you refer to are the same people who accepted the Novus Ordo I grew up with,which is a nightmare feminist hellhole.
      The FSSP and SSPX must accept Jewish/communist/feminist idolatry via Vatican 2 and non-catholic idolaters as Saints.
      You can have the FSSP.

    2. Anonymous, you need lessons in logic as well as grammar. Firstly, “the good old days” refers to PRE-V2 Catholicism, NOT to “the same people who accepted the Novus Ordo.” And secondly, we made absolutely NO MENTION of the FSSP in our article. But it is obvious from your comments that you have some sort of bone to pick with them. But I’ll tell you what: I’ll take them over the lepers at SGG and MHT ANY DAY. The priests at FSSP (and SSPX), besides being infinitely superior to the simpletons at SGG and MHT, live according to REAL Catholic principles, NOT the fakery that goes on at the cult centers.

      The FSSP and SSPX are at least trying to FIX Catholicism, not ABANDON it for some WORLDLY CULT that purports to “say the right words” but does NOT LIVE by Catholic principles. So, given the choice between them and the FSSP, I’d endorse the latter over them ANY DAY. Anonymous, by your comments, it is obvious that you are just another brain-dead adherent to Dannie and Tony’s ersatz “Catholicism.” And it is also obvious that you are a HYPOCRITE, who willfully MISCONSTRUED what we’ve said, just so you could get up on your soapbox to try to justify these lepers. In doing so, you have proved that you, too, are NOT Catholic.