tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932658529918187424.post7246477407585763530..comments2024-01-24T03:22:05.228-08:00Comments on The Lay Pulpit: Special Edition: A Letter by Donald SanbornThe Watcherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18313770117983560091noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932658529918187424.post-45989557409076748432016-05-13T10:40:24.452-07:002016-05-13T10:40:24.452-07:00Precisely! As we will mention in our next article...Precisely! As we will mention in our next article, the emphasis is no longer on the patient’s well-being, but on “cost effectiveness.” We’ll be posting it tomorrow. Thanks for your input. The Watcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18313770117983560091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932658529918187424.post-85518560977974493872016-05-13T09:41:13.226-07:002016-05-13T09:41:13.226-07:00I watched (helpless) while the hospital decided mo...I watched (helpless) while the hospital decided mom was too "frail" to repair a hernia. She could no longer ingest solids or fluids because of it. The doctors told me the operation would probably kill her. My retort: If she's going to die from lack of food and hydration, why not try the operation? It might succeed. <br />No..they just shook their heads. No. <br />So the Catholic (sic) hospital gave her morphine for about 7 days until she died. <br />I know why that happened. Because Medicare wouldn't pay for the operation; so the memo come down from the insurance company. <br />Patient: old (84 yrs.); frail; consuming and no longer producing. Cut her off. <br />It's 3 years later and there is hardly a day I don't cry about it and suffer over it. St. Michael defend us. CumExApostolatusOfficiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13348651961894752397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932658529918187424.post-64651992370936138782016-05-09T15:35:30.514-07:002016-05-09T15:35:30.514-07:00One thing we forgot to mention in our last respons...One thing we forgot to mention in our last response: the website that contained Sanborn’s note STILL EXISTS; it’s just Sanborn’s NOTE that has vanished. This makes its disappearance look all the more “fishy” and “sneaky” -- and adds credence to what Pistrina said about the reference to Sanborn’s “Schiavo” support of Cekada being erased from Checkie’s Wikipedia biography (not that any such “credence” is necessary; it’s always been COMMON KNOWLEDGE that Donny supported Checkie -- and the erased reference can, as we’ve said before, be “accessed” if necessary).<br /><br />Erasing an “embarrassing reference” from a website, by the way, is not something new: Thomas Droleskey did it on his “Christ or Chaos” website. A few years ago, he wrote a long diatribe, “Retracting Support for Paul Petko,” which, after we had proven it to be totally UNTRUE (and thus an embarrassment for him), he then WITHDREW from his website. Luckily, we copied that article too, before it was “erased.” So, this tactic, in the case of both of these scoundrels, has not worked – and will forever come back to haunt them.<br />The Watcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18313770117983560091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932658529918187424.post-31490371572803670382016-05-08T05:30:55.253-07:002016-05-08T05:30:55.253-07:00Well said, Shadow.
Sanborn’s comments show that h...Well said, Shadow.<br /><br />Sanborn’s comments show that he knows NOTHING about moral theology -- or, more likely, doesn’t CARE about moral theology. The moral theology of Schiavo is so BASIC that even a CHILD could figure it out – but he (and Checkie) chose to IGNORE it. Big Don didn’t take the time to research the facts on Schiavo because he didn’t WANT to. His only interest was in showing support NOT for Catholic principles but for his cronies. His allegiance was to THEM, not to God. MHT and SGG are CULTS; and the hallmark of cults is that they are “right” and everybody else is wrong. That’s why fellow cult masters must show SOLIDARITY for each other, and back up each other’s LIES. <br /><br />The fact that NONE of them – all these years since, and with plenty of opportunities to do so -- have never retracted what they’ve said about Schiavo shows both their insincerity and their unconcern. What Big Don, Checkie and Dannie care about – what they’ve always and ONLY cared about -- is M-O-N-E-Y. Whether they’re just PAWNS of the elitists, or are equal partners in crime, the result is the same: they are evil men. The parishioners at SGG and Brooksville must come to this realization, and come to the harsh reality that all three of these lepers care only about THEMSELVES<br />The Watcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18313770117983560091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932658529918187424.post-86956261663185681172016-05-07T15:55:34.121-07:002016-05-07T15:55:34.121-07:00Bishop Sanborn wrote the following:
"I unhes...Bishop Sanborn wrote the following:<br /><br />"I unhesitatingly respond yes, it is extraordinary. Why? Because the entire purpose of medicine is to aid the body to heal itself. When it becomes evident that the body will never heal itself in the case of the failure of a vital organ, then the prolongation of life becomes purely artificial. Think of a permanently brain-damaged person on a respirator, because he cannot breathe"...<br /><br />This is a poor example in the case of Terri Shiavo. Had Bishop Sanborn taken the time to research the Shiavo case himself, he would never have written this letter backing Fr. Cekada. How do we know? Because this letter was written on A Web-site that has since been taken down, and nowhere to be found, except here on Lay Pulpit, thanks to great investigative work. <br />I find it amazing how sure Bishop Sanborn was in his conviction to back up Fr. Cekada who has none of the following degrees: Canonical Lawyer, Medical Doctor or Scientist, and yet, Bishop Sanborn wrote endorsing Fr. Cedaka with the following statement, "I unhesitatingly respond yes, it is extraordinary”<br />Why would Bishop Sanborn have backed Fr. Cekada, without any reservation? <br />Could it be that all of the nine priests who left the Society of St. Pius X back in the early '80's believed his lies about being something he was not? Or could it be, that Bishop Sanborn failed his seminarians by having this alleged great theologian teaching in his seminary for all those years, only to find out he lied about his credentials?<br /><br />Hitler once said: “ If you tell a lie often enough, you begin to believe it, and "if you are going to lie, lie big.” Unfortunately for Fr. Cekada, and Bishop Sanborn they forgot about Spartan Law, which is: DON”T GET CAUGHT” They did, and now Blogs such as: Lay Pulpit and Pistrina Liturgica, are unveiling their masks of deception.<br /><br />I absolutely know, and without any doubt, that without air, (suffocation), without water, (dehydration), and without food, (starvation). and in that order, the body created by God, will die.<br /><br />Medicine is not even an issue in this case. <br /><br />Terri Shiavo was murdered by depriving her body of the basic elements God gave us to sustain life. <br /><br />She was MURDERED by the likes of those who have an agenda to pursue for their Master, Lucifer. They used the likes of these idiotic self- proclaimed so called theologians like Fr. Cekada, who by their arrogant ignorance aided and abated in the evil crime to promote their Anti-Christ agenda. The Elitists played our clergy like a fiddle while they entertained their pride, and danced right onto their pulpits of principles to defend their cause for murder. Their sole purpose was to introduce Roe v Wade as the precedent to establish a future law for Euthanasia. By the murder of Terri Shiavo in a public arena they opened the doors to future murders of anyone they deem not worthy to live. Perhaps one day we will have a reality show called, “ Your Day to Die”.<br /><br />There will be NO RIGHT TO LIFE FOR ANYONE, BUT THE ELITE.<br /><br />Long before there was a ROE V. WADE there was the clamoring from the elitists to be fearful of the impending Population Explosion. They had an agenda then, now, and long before The Crucifixion of Christ. <br /><br />I am truly sorry to say, that like Christ when He cried, “I thirst”, He was given gall by a Pagan soldier. While Terri Shiavo was given nothing in a so called civilized society. Not even the comfort of her mother, while she lie in the throes of an agonizing death from dehydration. All of this with the approval of a Catholic priest, and his bishop as they proclaim that water and food are extraordinary means.<br /><br />They say, “what goes around, comes around.” I would be fearful if I were Fr. Cekada or Bishop Sanborn, or anybody, who sided with them on this particular case, lest this fate befall me.<br /><br /><br />The Shadowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306306242831669719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932658529918187424.post-59637943191731834512016-05-07T07:41:15.988-07:002016-05-07T07:41:15.988-07:00At the risk of being repetitive, we again post the...At the risk of being repetitive, we again post the opinion of a <em>genuinely trained, <b>Catholic</b> priest</em>, Fr. Juan-Carlos Iscara of the SSPX on this subject. (Emphases his.)<br /><br />Fr. Iscara's entire monograph is available <a href="http://archives.sspx.org/against_sound_bites/to_live_and_let_die.htm" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a> Sanborn and Cekada are all wet!<br /><br />"...we are convinced that the provision of food and fluids is not simply —or strictly — "medical care," but the minimum care that must be provided for the sick, whatever their medical condition. All beings need food and water to live, but such nourishment by itself does not heal or cure disease. In consequence, to stop feeding the permanently unconscious patient is not to withdraw from the battle against illness, but simply to withhold the nourishment that sustains all life.<br /><br />Moreover, to withdraw the artificial provision of food and fluids is not simply "to allow the patient to die" : what we are doing is not to cease a treatment against disease, but to withdraw what is essential to sustain the life of every human being, either healthy or ill. Death will happen, not because of the illness, but because of our omission to provide adequate nutrition and hydration.<br /><br />In consequence, it can be affirmed that the procedure is neither useless nor burdensome: it preserves life, and the material inconveniences that it provokes are certainly and abundantly compensated by the good that it preserves. Consequently, <b><i>whatever the medical condition of the patient, artificial nutrition and hydration have to be continued</i></b>."<br /><br />Pistrina Liturgicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08438611767221518698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932658529918187424.post-85425796569106044552016-05-07T07:34:09.532-07:002016-05-07T07:34:09.532-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Pistrina Liturgicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08438611767221518698noreply@blogger.com